Canadians!

Please explain this to me:

Canadians are split on whether racism is a growing problem in the country, according to a new survey by the Association of Canadian Studies and Canadian Race Relations Foundation … Canadians in this survey were categorized as English, French or allophone, the last of which would be most likely to include visible minorities. Half of English Canadians thought racism was a growing problem, while that proportion was at about 40 per cent for both francophones and allophones.

The Canadian Race Relations Foundation article is here.

7 thoughts on “Canadians!

  1. I think a couple of paragraphs got at the paradox.

    “Jedwab said this part of the survey showed how Canadians view racism as it is outside their own personal experience, while Americans view the issue more subjectively.

    “In the United States, it’s more those groups who are expressing the phenomenon through the lens of how they feel they’re affected through those groups,” he said. “As opposed to in Canada, you’re seeing an assessment being made on the part of English Canadians about what the situation is, not so much as whether they’re affected by it individually.”

    Greater awareness can translate into more optimism or pessimism depending on who you are and where you live in Canada. You might have personally witnessed some incidents but still feel overall that things are OK or getting “better”. Or you may have witnessed few incidents but be persuaded that problems persist or are systemic depending on your level of awareness. In some of our cities where English Canadians are rapidly approaching minority status and schools are 70% non-white, I do think that English Canadians are more aware that race is an issue everyone must deal with, that it is possible (and preferable) to educate yourself and not just focus on your own little experience.

    One thing I can tell you is that Canadians will always tell you we do not live in the same world as you do (US). Pretty much every subject that comes up, that’s guaranteed to be our response. We are not you.

    Does that help??!!

  2. the study makes no sense. unless i’m reading it wrong, it’s broken down by language spoken. this study gets a side eye

  3. I don’t understand what part needs explaining (except whether or not I count as “English Canadian”, since I’m not an allophone or French Canadian, but I’m also not white).

    If the question is about why allophones (who would most likely include visible minorities) see less racism than “English Canadians”, then I think it’s because allophones are immigrants, not necessarily visible minorities, so they may not always pick up on the racism because they may not understand the language.

    He said the response on this question by allophones in Canada showed that visible minorities see this country “as a reasonably tolerant place.”

    Nope, it means immigrants (including white immigrants) may not understand Canadian culture enough to pick up on the racism.

  4. Isn’t funny how “English” is taken to mean “white”. Actually, most Asians – who are the biggest minority group, I believe – are English-speaking. They are also in the two cities where whites are or are close to being a minority, two of the biggest cities in Canada: Toronto and Vancouver. Perhaps that explains it? Maybe they are subject to more racism?

  5. Pretty sure by “English Canadian” they mean WASP, though they might include Catholic in it. These people are rather clueless. Plus, the amount in which whites are “minority” in Vancouver and Toronto is exaggerated. There is one Ward in Toronto, for example, that is 51% Asian. But Toronto as a whole is still majority European and the bourgeois are still WASP more specifically. A better breakdown of stats can be found on the city of Toronto site.

  6. Pretty sure by “English Canadian” they mean WASP, though they might include Catholic in it.

    But this would mean that visible minorities who speak English and French as a first language are not included in the survey about racism… If they actually did a statistically representative survey, then how can answers from visible minorities who speak English or French as a first language be thrown out?

    Indeed, their language categorization as a proxy for race is clueless. I looked at their staff page, and their names suggest that they are not of English or French descent. This confuses me, and I wonder if the staff are themselves allophones and have no children, which is why they didn’t think about visible minorities who speak English or French as a first language.

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